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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Book Review: Constantine Vaporis' Tour of Duty Reply with quote
I just posted a review of Professor Constantine Vaporis' Tour of Duty- Samurai, Military Service in Edo, and the Culture of Early Modern Japan.

For those with an interest in the Edo Period and how the system of alternate attendance helped to shape it, this book is a must read. Please read the review on the Shogun-ki blog at http://shogun-yashiki.blogspot.com
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
While I had put off buying this book (well, buying it for myself) I think I'll have to go and order it now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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While I had put off buying this book (well, buying it for myself) I think I'll have to go and order it now.
I got the book from a friend, and it was a much appreciated gift indeed. If you do get it for yourself, you won't be disappointed. Wink

However, it looks like Amazon is no longer directly selling the book! Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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While I had put off buying this book (well, buying it for myself) I think I'll have to go and order it now.
I got the book from a friend, and it was a much appreciated gift indeed. If you do get it for yourself, you won't be disappointed. Wink

However, it looks like Amazon is no longer directly selling the book! Sad


Yeah, I just saw that. And of course, it's twice as much from the secondary dealers. I was driven to buy "Heian Centers and Peripheries" instead, and hope that the Vaporis book gets a new printing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the excellent review. I've seen this title here and there from time to time, but it never really grabbed my attention. I guess I just didn't really know what it was about.

Having just finished McClain's book on Kanazawa, which focuses on the development of a castle town in the Edo period, I think Tour of Duty could serve as an excellent complement - providing additional layers of understanding about the relationships between a domain and its absent leaders & retainers, and about the role of sankin kotai in spreading culture around Japan.

It's going on my list. (Though when I'll get around to reading it....)
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just received this book in the mail and have gotten about 15 pages into it so far. I read your review on the Kanazawa book, lordameth, and, as I did, I realized that it probably would be well complemented by Tour of Duty, as Vaporis' introduction noted how hard it was to get a full complement of information out of any one domain's records and how his Tosa example blends in many figures from other records that can be assumed to be similar in Tosa. By the way, that was a great review on the Kanazawa book; I must say you know how to pick out and point out what even not-so-well informed folks like me would want to find in it. Very Happy I am headed to read Obenjo's review of the book that awaits my attentions by the bedside this evening. Cheers! (scratch that: I just read the review (great review and amusing intro there, Obenjo!) and it sounds like I've got a real treat in store. The introduction alone promises great breadth of detail, and I hope to have it read in time for the interview, which I am also very much looking forward to. Cheers again, and it is off to read!

A sort of peripheral endnote: as I tear through a binge of watching "Fuurin Kazan" lately, I realize that the hostage system has a long history that didn't always turn out well for those who employed the system. Also, allegiances seemed to change with the winds; indeed, when I look at the idea of sankin kotai in this light, I realize that Vaporis' assertion that it is one of the single greatest achievements of the Tokugawa certainly has a lot of weight to it.
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Thanks for the excellent review. I've seen this title here and there from time to time, but it never really grabbed my attention. I guess I just didn't really know what it was about.

Having just finished McClain's book on Kanazawa, which focuses on the development of a castle town in the Edo period, I think Tour of Duty could serve as an excellent complement - providing additional layers of understanding about the relationships between a domain and its absent leaders & retainers, and about the role of sankin kotai in spreading culture around Japan.

It's going on my list. (Though when I'll get around to reading it....)

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the review. Sound very interesting. When I get a bit more money, I will definitely buy. The book is being offered by Amazon.com as well as some used-book sellers.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Woot! It's back in stock on Amazon at the $34 price!
Of course, there's only one copy left in stock after I ordered mine...
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm glad to hear that Amazon was able to get a few more new copies and sell them directly at the $34 price.

In the event that Amazon does run out of stock again and if there is no message saying more copies are on the way, you can order the book directly from the publisher, The University of Hawaii Press. Here is a link to the University of Hawaii Press' page for ordering Tour of Duty. Just be aware that the U of H price is $50.

And BTW-- the U of H Press has a great catalog of titles that made my mouth start to water! Very Happy

Wave, Onna and Meth- Thanks for the positive feedback about the review. I think you will also definitely like the book.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just wish this book and the Kanazawa book had come out a couple years ago. Maybe I can carve out some time to read them this summer. Is there any specific mention about the Asano clan in the Vaporis book? I have some questions about the dates of their visits to Edo in the 1630s among other things. I realize that this a very narrow focus, but there's no harm in asking right?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I just wish this book and the Kanazawa book had come out a couple years ago. Maybe I can carve out some time to read them this summer. Is there any specific mention about the Asano clan in the Vaporis book? I have some questions about the dates of their visits to Edo in the 1630s among other things. I realize that this a very narrow focus, but there's no harm in asking right?
I remember reading last night a mention of this very thing: that Lord Asano and his heir were both in Edo at the time of the incident with Kira Yoshinaka, and that this impacted the response back home, as only the senior retainer had been left in charge. Vaporis emphasizes the importance of the alternation of the daimyo and his heir being in the respective domain and at Edo and that they normally didn't meet for long in Edo and never in the domain.
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I just wish this book and the Kanazawa book had come out a couple years ago. Maybe I can carve out some time to read them this summer. Is there any specific mention about the Asano clan in the Vaporis book? I have some questions about the dates of their visits to Edo in the 1630s among other things. I realize that this a very narrow focus, but there's no harm in asking right?
I remember reading last night a mention of this very thing: that Lord Asano and his heir were both in Edo at the time of the incident with Kira Yoshinaka


That wasn't in the 1630's, though-it happened much later (in 1701).
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Is there any specific mention about the Asano clan in the Vaporis book? I have some questions about the dates of their visits to Edo in the 1630s among other things. I realize that this a very narrow focus, but there's no harm in asking right?
Sorry, Shisendo, but there isn't any mention of the time the Asano daimyo spent in Edo in the 1630s. There is a very good reason for that. Vaporis points out in his book that sankin kōtaias a requirement, doesn't show up until 1635 in the Laws for Military Houses (Buke Shohatto). Before that, yes, daimyo spent time in Edo and left hostages on rotating basis, but the system wasn't completely codified.

It maybe possible to find records in the archives in Ako that detail the size of the Asano contigents in Edo and in what years, so your best bet is to maybe contact the Ako museum of history. Maybe a curator there can help you. Here's the phone number: +81-791-43-4600. Ganbatte!
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That wasn't in the 1630's, though-it happened much later (in 1701).
Sorry, I knew it didn't happen in the 1630's, but I, being in the last 10 minutes of consciousness, tried to post quickly and thus blotted out the sight of "1630's." Sorry for the confusion! I had meant to point out that Asano is mentioned with respect to sankin kotai and its effects on domain politics. I guess I ought to spend a few more minutes reading the question... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That wasn't in the 1630's, though-it happened much later (in 1701).
Sorry, I knew it didn't happen in the 1630's, but I, being in the last 10 minutes of consciousness, tried to post quickly and thus blotted out the sight of "1630's." Sorry for the confusion! I had meant to point out that Asano is mentioned with respect to sankin kotai and its effects on domain politics. I guess I ought to spend a few more minutes reading the question... :oops:


No need to be embarrassed. It was still a useful post in pointing out that father and son would only meet while in Edo due to the system.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It maybe possible to find records in the archives in Ako that detail the size of the Asano contigents in Edo and in what years, so your best bet is to maybe contact the Ako museum of history. Maybe a curator there can help you. Here's the phone number: +81-791-43-4600. Ganbatte!


Obenjo, that's an awesome lead. My wife has already conducted a couple cross ocean phone conversations like this for me trying to nail down similar nitty gritty details. I don't have my notes in front of me, but I think that Asano Nagaakira died in 1632 and Asano Mitsuakira succeeded him. One of them brought back a stone shaped like a frog once owned by Neo-Confucian scholar Fujiwara Seika around that time. My theory is that it was acquired on a return trip from Edo while passing through Kyoto. Unfortunately, calls to the garden in Hiroshima where it is on display could not even confirm the year it was purchased. Even though sankin kōtai wasn't codified until 1635, I wonder if the Asano clan was already participating in the precursor to the system in the early 1630s. Anyway, just thinking out loud here. If I ever find the answer I'll follow up if anyone is interested in what might seem like a trivial factoid.
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Shisendo, the Asano were definitely participating in the Edo atendance and hostage system that existed before 1635. Basically, daimyo participated because they clearly understood the implied threat of what would happen if they didn't--regardless of whose side they were on at Sekigahara.
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I have just heard word that Tour of Duty will be coming out in paperback in December 2009, with a cover price of roughly $23.

Quite reasonable, I think; I look forward to getting a copy of this book.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have just heard word that Tour of Duty will be coming out in paperback in December 2009, with a cover price of roughly $23.

Quite reasonable, I think; I look forward to getting a copy of this book.


Pretty much par for the course nowadays. Not bad, it's on my list.
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If that is the case, then it is on my wish list as well.
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I received an email from Professor Vaporis this morning confirming that a softcover version of Tour of Duty will go on sale this December and will retail at a price of $23. I really can't recommend this book enough. It instantly became one of the most important English-language Edo period history books in my respectable-sized private collection. If you are interested in really understanding the underpinnings of Edo period culture, economy and politics, Tour of Duty is an absolute must-read. However, that being said, if you are new to the study of Japanese history and the Edo period, I'd recommend reading a few survey books first. ToD is most helpful to those who already have at least a basic understanding of the period.

You can pre-order Tour of Duty from the University of Hawaii Press by clicking on this link. Here's a partial review of the book, from the order page: “Vaporis has written a magnificent book on the sankin kotai, or alternate attendance system. . . . Long considered the central political control mechanism of the Tokugawa period, the system has received surprisingly little scholarly attention until now. Filling a major gap in the understanding of Japanese history, the author provides a detailed account of the mechanics of the system and demands placed on daimyo and retainers on tours of duty in Edo. Exploiting the latest archaeological and archival sources, Vaporis makes clear the economic burden of the system on the daimyo, as well as its role as an engine of cultural, intellectual, and material exchange, from the center in Edo and between regions. The author also provides intimate details of the lives of samurai, both on the road to and from Edo and while serving their time in Edo. For all interested in early modern history. . . . Highly recommended.” —Choice (July 2009)

I full-heartedly agree with that above review!!

For those of you who can't wait for Santa to deliver it in December, you can order a new hardcover copy from Amazon at the discounted price of $36.71, which is a good buy considering it originally sold for $50.00.
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Now this is a book I want. Thanks for the great review since I've always been curious about the samurai going to Edo then returning to their homes. It seems this book would also answer a lot of my questions as to what a samurai did when in Edo. I'm putting this book on my christmas list.
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Definitely must grab a copy of this book. I thought I *had* one, but it hasn't shown up in my packing, so it appears it's only been on my "must get" rather than "have gotten" list.

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The US$23 paperback version of Tour of Duty is now available. Just one hitch-- it isn't showing up on Amazon.com. Professor Vaporis is trying to get this corrected and once this issue addressed, Kitsuno will add it to the SA's Amazon store. Please consider buying it through the SA, as 4% of whatever is sold there goes for paying for this site's maintenance and upkeep.

For those of you who just gotta have this "gotta have" book now, you can order it through the University of Hawaii Press's website here.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The US$23 paperback version of Tour of Duty is now available. Just one hitch-- it isn't showing up on Amazon.com. Professor Vaporis is trying to get this corrected and once this issue addressed, Kitsuno will add it to the SA's Amazon store. Please consider buying it through the SA, as 4% of whatever is sold there goes for paying for this site's maintenance and upkeep.

For those of you who just gotta have this "gotta have" book now, you can order it through the University of Hawaii Press's website here.


I was wondering what had happened when I searched for it yesterday. I even went to the UH blog to discover it had been out since November. A rare unlisted book for Amazon.
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