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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: Battles Of The Samurai Trivia |
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Yes, boys and girls, it’s time for ‘BATTLES OF THE SAMURAI’ trivia, the game that challenges your knowledge of armed conflicts in pre-modern Japanese history! We’re even throwing in battles from before the time of the samurai, just because…well, darn it, you’re special. Yes, pretty much everything from the early conflicts in Korea (in Ancient Japan) to the tomfoolery of the Bakumatsu will be hosted here in the Kamakura/Sengoku forum for convenience…and because those are the time periods when the REAL SAMURAI were active. The rules follow the standard SA format-
I) Only one question, right or wrong, can be answered per 24 hour period.
II) Copy the question along with the choices when giving your reply.
III) Guesses are not only accepted but encouraged.
IV) Feel free to provide as much additional background and/or justification for your answer as possible (although you don’t HAVE to).
V) Adding your own questions is encouraged, but try to keep the numbering consecutive and wait for any prior rounds of questions to be answered first.
VI) All answers not adhering to the rules will be mercilessly disregarded and probably ridiculed by the god-like judges (that’s me). Or not.
The first round of questions is pretty basic and can be found on the net with little effort. I’m your host Tatsu, assisted by the lovely and talented Ayame. So without further adieu let’s move on to…
BATTLES OF THE SAMURAI!
1) Which of the following officers in the service of the Shogunate was brought down by a peasant with a rock during the Shimabara No Ran (Shimabara Rebellion) of 1638?
a) Matsudaira Nobutsuna
b) Miyamoto Musashi
c) Ishida Ganryu
d) Itakura Shigemasa
2) In the Zenkunen Kassen (Former Nine Year’s War), what was one of the results of Minamoto Yoriyoshi’s successful siege of Abe Sadato’s Kuriyagawa Stockade?
a) dozens of women inside were given to the victorious troops and raped
b) Yoriyoshi petitioned the Imperial Court for rewards and was denied
c) Yoriyoshi’s men stopped to partake of the sake stores and failed to pursue the Abe-who shortly after returned and burned down the stockade, killing virtually everyone inside
d) while fleeing, Abe Sadato’s horse toppled into a crude pit lined with bamboo stakes-killing him with his own defences
3) This detail comes from a painted screen depicting what battle?
4) Based on recent archaeological findings, whereabouts did the majority of the 1281 Ghenkou (Mongol invasion) fleet go down as a result of the ‘kamikaze’?
a) off Takashima
b) off Iki
c) off Tsushima
d) off Komota
5) Perhaps the most effective fighting force on the Korea/Chinese side during the Bunroku/Keicho No Eki (Korean invasions) of 1592-8 were the Korean Buddhist monks who organized into fighting units in order to win concessions for Buddhism in the highly Confucian Korean state. Whether fighting alongside regular Korean or Chinese troops, Righteous Armies, or on their own, the warrior monks always gave a good account of themselves-so much so that they became the inspiration for visual depictions of Japanese ‘sohei’ during the Edo period. About how many monks were mobilized?
a) 73,500
b) 51,500
c) 19,500
d) 8,500
6) Which of Nobunaga’s commanders indicated to the Takeda that he would defect at Nagashino when the battle commenced?
a) Sakuma Nobumori
b) Akechi Mitsuhide
c) Gamo Ujisato
d) Yamauchi Kazutoyo
7) A Toyotomi general lost his fort to a Tokugawa assault during the Osaka Fuyu No Jin (Winter Siege of Osaka) in 1614 because he had left his post and was passed out drunk in a brothel at the time of the attack. He later redeemed himself by fighting fiercely and giving his life at the battle of Domyo-ji during the Osaka Natsu No Jin (Summer Siege) in 1615. Who was he?
a) Hayami Morihisa
b) Hotta Masataka
c) Susukida Kanesuke
d) Brick McBurly
e) Yoshida Yoshikore
8 ) What happened after Nasu No Yoichi took up the Taira’s archery challenge and shot the folding fan from one of their ships at the battle of Yashima?
a) another Minamoto archer, Chiba Tsunemori, shot the woman holding the fan
b) a Taira clansman emerged from the ship and performed a celebratory dance on deck
c) Yoichi collapsed in the saddle and fell into the water, presumably due to heat and stress
d) the fan was recovered from the water by a Minamoto servant and given to Minamoto no Yoshitsune
9) What item(s) did troops from Satsuma and Choshu bring into battle at Toba-Fushimi that is generally credited with destroying the morale of the pro-Shogunate forces they faced?
a) the heads of several Shogunate officials executed in Kyoto
b) a riverboat armed with a battery of heavy Western cannon
c) forged Imperial standards
d) captured banners featuring the Aoi crest of the Tokugawa
10) Historian Thomas Conlan believes that in battles conducted shortly before the onset of the Onin No Ran, one clan pioneered tactics that led to a revolution in Japanese warfare-foot units armed with spears operating as a cohesive unit. Which clan?
a) Shiba
b) Hosokawa
c) Hatakeyama
d) Rokkaku |
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owari no utsuke Taisho
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I am going for No. 6.
Which of Nobunaga's commanders indicated to the Takeda that he would defect at Nagashino when the battle commenced?
A) Sakuma Nobumori
B) Akechi Mitsuhide
C) Gamo Ujisato
D) Yamauchi Kazutoyo
The answer is (A) Sakuma Nobumori.
Nobumori wrote that he sent a messenger to the Takeda that he indended to defect from the Oda. This was false and the Takeda bought the trap.
Answer found in Thomas Conlan's book Weapons and Fighting Techniques of the Samurai Warrior, p. 174. _________________ You'll Never Walk Alone!
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| owari no utsuke wrote: |
I am going for No. 6.
Which of Nobunaga's commanders indicated to the Takeda that he would defect at Nagashino when the battle commenced?
A) Sakuma Nobumori
B) Akechi Mitsuhide
C) Gamo Ujisato
D) Yamauchi Kazutoyo
The answer is (A) Sakuma Nobumori.
Nobumori wrote that he sent a messenger to the Takeda that he indended to defect from the Oda. This was false and the Takeda bought the trap.
Answer found in Thomas Conlan's book Weapons and Fighting Techniques of the Samurai Warrior, p. 174. |
Les, you seemed to have not read rule VI.V, which states "Les is not allowed to answer any question containing the word Nobunaga". But, since you're our intial responder, we'll let it go-correct! Nice! |
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7) A Toyotomi general lost his fort to a Tokugawa assault during the Osaka Fuyu No Jin (Winter Siege of Osaka) in 1614 because he had left his post and was passed out drunk in a brothel at the time of the attack. He later redeemed himself by fighting fiercely and giving his life at the battle of Domyo-ji during the Osaka Natsu No Jin (Summer Siege) in 1615. Who was he?
a) Hayami Morihisa
b) Hotta Masataka
c) Susukida Kanesuke
d) Brick McBurly
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While passing out drunk is definitely a Brick McBurly signature move, there is no way he would have redeemed himself by fighting valiantly and giving up his life. So I'll go with McBurly's drinking partna Susukida Kanesuke (C) _________________ A person who knows but a little will put on an air of knowledge. This is a matter of inexperience. When someone knows something well, it will not be seen in his manner. This person is genteel.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Battles Of The Samurai Trivia |
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| Tatsunoshi wrote: |
1) Which of the following officers in the service of the Shogunate was brought down by a peasant with a rock during the Shimabara No Ran (Shimabara Rebellion) of 1638?
a) Matsudaira Nobutsuna
b) Miyamoto Musashi
c) Ishida Ganryu
d) Itakura Shigemasa
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I've got to try this one. d) Itakura Shigemasa
I know Itakura died during the rebellion because he was a good friend of Ishikawa Jozan. I don't know what the circumstances of his death were though, so this really is a guess. It's a sad story really, because the Itakuras were popular administrators in Kyoto, far more suited for a life as patrons of the arts than leading armies. |
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Question 3:
I think this is from a folding screen depicting the Battle of Osaka Castle: this part shows the Summer campaign. |
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4) Based on recent archaeological findings, whereabouts did the majority of the 1281 Ghenkou (Mongol invasion) fleet go down as a result of the ‘kamikaze’?
a) off Takashima
b) off Iki
c) off Tsushima
d) off Komota
I'd say the answer is a) off of Takashima. They've made some truly remarkable discoveries there over the past seven years or so. Among the ship wreckage and debris, they have even found small explosive shells that were filled with shrapnel and gunpowder. This evidence reputes Conlan's theory that pictures of these little bombs that appear in the Mongol Invasion scrolls were added later. It seems that these little grenade-like bombs did exist after all, but rather than being always made of iron, the outer shell was often ceramic. _________________
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9) What item(s) did troops from Satsuma and Choshu bring into battle at Toba-Fushimi that is generally credited with destroying the morale of the pro-Shogunate forces they faced?
a) the heads of several Shogunate officials executed in Kyoto
b) a riverboat armed with a battery of heavy Western cannon
c) forged Imperial standards
d) captured banners featuring the Aoi crest of the Tokugawa |
Good question, and I'm going with C.) Forged Imperial standards. In a battle where the Sat-cho forces were outnumbered 3 to 1, the sight of the Imperial crest on the third day of the battle must have simply been stunning for the Shogunal forces and a real bummer. |
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8 ) What happened after Nasu No Yoichi took up the Taira’s archery challenge and shot the folding fan from one of their ships at the battle of Yashima?
a) another Minamoto archer, Chiba Tsunemori, shot the woman holding the fan
b) a Taira clansman emerged from the ship and performed a celebratory dance on deck
c) Yoichi collapsed in the saddle and fell into the water, presumably due to heat and stress
d) the fan was recovered from the water by a Minamoto servant and given to Minamoto no Yoshitsune
b) From Heike Monogatari (Sadler's translation):
And when they saw the scarlet fan gleaming in the rays of the setting sun as it danced up and down, rising and falling on the white crests of the waves, the Heike in the offing beat applaudingly on the gunwales of their ships, while the Genji on the shore rattled their quivers till they rang again. Unable to restrain himself in his excitement over the enjoyment of this feat, an old warior of some fifty years...sprang up on one of the ships just in the place where the fan had been and began to dance...
Yoichi then shot and killed him, being told "it is our lord's command," but most [I think most of the Genji, though it is not clear] shouted disapprovingly. |
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Wow! Glad to see everyone's been busy while I've been sleeping!
| leakbrewergator wrote: |
| While passing out drunk is definitely a Brick McBurly signature move, there is no way he would have redeemed himself by fighting valiantly and giving up his life. So I'll go with McBurly's drinking partna Susukida Kanesuke (C) |
You display an unnaturally keen insight, and your answer is correct!
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I've got to try this one. d) Itakura Shigemasa
I know Itakura died during the rebellion because he was a good friend of Ishikawa Jozan. I don't know what the circumstances of his death were though, so this really is a guess. It's a sad story really, because the Itakuras were popular administrators in Kyoto, far more suited for a life as patrons of the arts than leading armies. |
Nope, that's not it. Itakura was the initial overall commander sent to quell the rebellion, and was indeed killed by the defenders of Hara castle. However, he was killed by an arrow.
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| Question 3: I think this is from a folding screen depicting the Battle of Osaka Castle: this part shows the Summer campaign. |
Correct! This section shows the immediate aftermath of the taking/torching of the main keep as peasants who had taken refuge inside the castle walls attempt to flee across rivers and canals from the victorious Tokugawa.
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| I'd say the answer is a) off of Takashima. They've made some truly remarkable discoveries there over the past seven years or so. Among the ship wreckage and debris, they have even found small explosive shells that were filled with shrapnel and gunpowder. This evidence reputes Conlan's theory that pictures of these little bombs that appear in the Mongol Invasion scrolls were added later. It seems that these little grenade-like bombs did exist after all, but rather than being always made of iron, the outer shell was often ceramic. |
Yeeeesssssssss! Right you are, o mighty one! It does seem, however, that the bombs in the scroll really were added decades later-but that Conlan was initially incorrect about the devices having never been used.
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| Good question, and I'm going with C.) Forged Imperial standards. In a battle where the Sat-cho forces were outnumbered 3 to 1, the sight of the Imperial crest on the third day of the battle must have simply been stunning for the Shogunal forces and a real bummer. |
On the nose, Dash! The "Imperial" forces also had forged orders from the Emperor ordering them to chastise the Tokugawa (however, I doubt these were visible from the Tokugawa lines)!
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b) From Heike Monogatari (Sadler's translation):
And when they saw the scarlet fan gleaming in the rays of the setting sun as it danced up and down, rising and falling on the white crests of the waves, the Heike in the offing beat applaudingly on the gunwales of their ships, while the Genji on the shore rattled their quivers till they rang again. Unable to restrain himself in his excitement over the enjoyment of this feat, an old warior of some fifty years...sprang up on one of the ships just in the place where the fan had been and began to dance...
Yoichi then shot and killed him, being told "it is our lord's command," but most [I think most of the Genji, though it is not clear] shouted disapprovingly. |
Correct! And thanks for posting the Heike entry. This display of extremely poor sportsmanship on the part of the Genji has always been one of my favorite stories from Japanese history.
That leaves 1, 2, 5 and 10 still open. Good work, everyone! |
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I am going for No. 10.
Historian Thomas Conlan believes that in battles fefore the onset of the Onin no ran, one clan pioneered tactics that led to a revolution In Japanese warfare-ffot units armed with spears operating as a cohesive unit. Which clan?
A)Shiba
B)Hosokawa
C)Hatakeyama
D)Rokkaku
The answer is (C) Hatakeyama. Weapons&Fighting Techniques of the Samurai Warrior, p. 95.
"In the mounatins of Kii Province, the Hatakeyama first trained groups of men fighting as units of pikemen." _________________ You'll Never Walk Alone!
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Battles Of The Samurai Trivia |
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| Shisendo wrote: |
| Tatsunoshi wrote: |
1) Which of the following officers in the service of the Shogunate was brought down by a peasant with a rock during the Shimabara No Ran (Shimabara Rebellion) of 1638?
a) Matsudaira Nobutsuna
b) Miyamoto Musashi
c) Ishida Ganryu
d) Itakura Shigemasa
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I've got to try this one. d) Itakura Shigemasa
I know Itakura died during the rebellion because he was a good friend of Ishikawa Jozan. I don't know what the circumstances of his death were though, so this really is a guess. It's a sad story really, because the Itakuras were popular administrators in Kyoto, far more suited for a life as patrons of the arts than leading armies. |
Let me try again. I should have read the question more carefully. I note now that it reads "brought down," not killed, even if that idiom often implies death when referring to battles. There is a story that b) Miyamoto Musashi, the legendary swordsman, was hit by a rock while scouting, forcing him to watch the remainder of the battle from the sidelines. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Battles Of The Samurai Trivia |
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| Shisendo wrote: |
| Let me try again. I should have read the question more carefully. I note now that it reads "brought down," not killed, even if that idiom often implies death when referring to battles. There is a story that b) Miyamoto Musashi, the legendary swordsman, was hit by a rock while scouting, forcing him to watch the remainder of the battle from the sidelines. |
Correct! In a bit of history usually ignored by most Western chronicles of Musashi for obvious reasons, 'sword saint' Musashi was put out of action by an untrained, lowly peasant with a rock. My personal favorite slice of Musashi lore.
And Les, you are correct as well and 2-for-2, putting you at the top of the charts.
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5) Perhaps the most effective fighting force on the Korea/Chinese side during the Bunroku/Keicho No Eki (Korean invasions) of 1592-8 were the Korean Buddhist monks who organized into fighting units in order to win concessions for Buddhism in the highly Confucian Korean state. Whether fighting alongside regular Korean or Chinese troops, Righteous Armies, or on their own, the warrior monks always gave a good account of themselves-so much so that they became the inspiration for visual depictions of Japanese ‘sohei’ during the Edo period. About how many monks were mobilized?
a) 73,500
b) 51,500
c) 19,500
d) 8,500
I'm going with d) 8,500 based on the 'number of above 8,000' that Samuel Dukhae Kim quotes in his Columbia University doctoral thesis Korean Monk Soldiers in the Imjin Wars: An Analysis of Buddhist Resistance to the Hideyoshi Invasion, 1592-1598.
And I also know the answer to question 2....  _________________
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2) In the Zenkunen Kassen (Former Nine Year’s War), what was one of the results of Minamoto Yoriyoshi’s successful siege of Abe Sadato’s Kuriyagawa Stockade?
a) dozens of women inside were given to the victorious troops and raped
b) Yoriyoshi petitioned the Imperial Court for rewards and was denied
c) Yoriyoshi’s men stopped to partake of the sake stores and failed to pursue the Abe-who shortly after returned and burned down the stockade, killing virtually everyone inside
d) while fleeing, Abe Sadato’s horse toppled into a crude pit lined with bamboo stakes-killing him with his own defences
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Out of all these dramatic results I would have gone for B). He did not get the rewards he thought he should. But on consulting Karl Friday I found the following
"In the stockade dozens of beautiful women...wept miserably among the smoke. Each one of them was dragged out and given to the warriors who raped them"
so I'll change my reply to A)  |
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| Obenjo Kusanosuke wrote: |
| I'm going with d) 8,500 based on the 'number of above 8,000' that Samuel Dukhae Kim quotes in his Columbia University doctoral thesis Korean Monk Soldiers in the Imjin Wars: An Analysis of Buddhist Resistance to the Hideyoshi Invasion, 1592-1598. |
You betcha! The detailed tables in the back give a detailed breakdown and have it at slightly over 8500-a relatively small number for such an effective force, but the numbers make sense given the fact that Buddhism was treated harshly and disdained by the Korean government.
Where'd you get a copy of that thesis?
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| Out of all these dramatic results I'm going to go for B). He did not get the rewards he thought he should. |
While that would be a pretty standard occurance for battles of the era (and would become a major issue in the following 'Gosannen Kassen'), the answer lies elsewhere. But your answer is not for naught, for you have now narrowed the field!
What about it, folks? Who will beat the wily Baka Tono to the finish line on question 2, before the full fury of his answer is unleashed at the end of the 24 hour moratorium? |
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Maybe you did not see my edit  |
Nope-you must have edited it while I was in the middle of posting my reply. And your edit is correct! The matter of fact way in which this is related in the Mutsuwaki is one of the more disturbing, brutal and sad images found in the war tales.
So the end of round one finds Heron, Obenjo, and Owari tied at 2. Since this completes the 10 questions, everyone should feel free to submit their own-as many or as few as you like, but try to keep the numbering scheme intact. I'll put more up at a later date. Thanks to everyone for doing such a great job! |
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Question 3: I think this is from a folding screen depicting the Battle of Osaka Castle: this part shows the Summer campaign.Unquote
Correct! This section shows the immediate aftermath of the taking/torching of the main keep as peasants who had taken refuge inside the castle walls attempt to flee across rivers and canals from the victorious Tokugawa. |
I visited Osaka Castle several years ago, and what I remember most about the visit was connected with that pair of screens. The screens themselves were not on display then, but they had a gripping 15-minute "panorama" about the screen projected on a panel about the same size and position (i.e. standing on the floor) as the screen. One of the pair of screens was about the armies; the other was about the population fleeing the castle afterwards, often being attacked by the enemy, or regular robbers. I am not familiar with battle screens, but did others show the battle aftermath like this as well? |
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| Most of the painted screens that survive were done during the Edo period, and many of them were paired like that-occasionally, even done in a set of 4. Screens of Kyoto might show winter on one screen and summer on the other (with the east on one screen and the west on another). They would be set one on each side of the observer. For battle screens, it was pretty common to show the entire timeline of the battle on one screen or (as in the Osaka screen) done over two. Of course, most battles were fought in rural areas so the aftermath would generally just show one army or the other running off and being pursued-in the case of one screen this would usually be on the left side. Osaka, of course, was a densely populated city so the 'aftermath' portion of the second screen in this instance is much more noticable with all the regular citizens fleeing as well as the soldiers. |
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